This is typical and one of the worst aspects of this community. Replies. The left wing shows most of the damage where it connects to the fuselage. freight dogs fly to some airports that are questionable at best with shaky non precision step down approaches with no glideslope. You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. Flags in front of City Hall will be lowered to half-staff and a City Council meeting in the new year will be adjourned in honor of Minters service.. The KBYI AWOS observations already cited above all gave evidence of Icing Conditions of -SN (light snow) and below freezing temperatures. poor maintenance blamed for cessna 337 crash. Also no PAPI on that runway so no way to determine her glidepath without visual references. First of all, when is capitalism EVER unchecked? A very strange UPS A300 crash in Birmingham was never assigned a direct cause - just CFIT below minimums. How could it be said now that either of them wanted it closed? Messages that harass, abuse or threaten other persons, such as threats to cause bodily harm, or that contain obscene or otherwise objectionable content, may result in the loss of your posting privileges. The airplane subsequently struck the smokestack and fell to the rooftop. The MDA & displaced threshold is for the obstacles near the approach. Search our listings for used & new airplanes updated daily from 100's of private sellers & dealers. It is believed the plane was doing a flyover of the camp when the incident occurred. Go direct to that comment by using this link:http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650113710197#c2541529799564513775. Recently she appeared on Los Angeles television representing airport interests in a debate with the Airport Neighbors Association. On a cold day, the 020 approach to Burley Airfield could hardly be worse. They won't believe it if NTSB doesn't blame the impossible to overcome steam cloud in the final a couple of years hence. A wing collided with a tractor trailer, causing the aircraft to overturn into a tree line next to the road. Additionally, with the needles centered she would have been 100 feet to the right of the stacks on a normal GPS approach.Looking at the ADS-B track on the missed it shows her at 6950 which should be coming from the GPS. Sunrise was at 6:56.She would have been accustomed to crossing the waterway with the railroad bridge in view on the right side during the last moments in the normal approach to the RW20 threshold.There is nothing to see that is even remotely similar to the waterway and RR bridge combination before reaching the tater plant. Top of the stack that was hit is 100 feet AGL. Among the victims were American singer and actress Aaliyah and members of her entourage, including a hairdresser, her . Vertical rate was approximately 900 fpm at last point and it appears it hit some silos at a food plant. She established -857 and kept it there and kept going. @billy - No reason to expect insults. Before the first approach, the pilot acknowledged the weather. What if the circumstances were such that might have overwhelmed any level of experience?Been there, done just about all the above. If you feel this information is incomplete or incorrect, you can submit corrected information . He's getting his wish. A plane that crashed in Hampton last month had no mechanical issues before it went down, killing Blue Origin astronaut Glen de Vries and his Essex County flight . Brittney often told those who had the privilege of flying with her that she never felt closer to heaven than she did when flying. Prayers for this family and those impacted by this tragedy. A Cessna 182P that went down during weather in Tennessee in early September was the 48 th fatality from crashes involving Cessnas in 2022, according to FAA data. That building and stack was constructed relatively recently. A viewpoint location one quarter mile (1,320 feet) toward the airport from the stack (such as at Gossner's areas adjacent to 7th Avenue) would be very likely to see the approaching aircraft appear to descend into the water vapor plume, but viewpoint locations off to the side of the flight track or Northeast of the stacks have a different perspective.Plant has operated since 2011, so there has been a long period of opportunity where the water vapor plume from the dryer stacks were operating under similar weather conditions and subject to observation, photos and videos of plume behaviour in all wx conditions.Potato plant created artificial IFR conditions! The information contained in this record should be the most current Airworthiness information available in the historical aircraft record. Maybe you thought they were recent because the overhead photo shown on google map imaging is not as recent as street view or the Town News article photos and the red metal structure and yellow ladder wasn't there when the outdated overhead image was taken. Osha's 42 inch guardrail standard x 20 comes out to 70 feet.This was the image used:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99Door opening height to clear semi trucks are 14 feet. Kathryn S Report Cessna 180f N180tb Accident Occurred August 20 2019 At Arlington Municipal On september 1, 2014, about 1050 eastern daylight time, a cessna 180, n6510a, was substantially damaged when it impacted trees and terrain during the initial. Ice forming on the intake cowling constricts the air intake. It's not the answers that friends and family will want.The Caravans of today, even one 9 years old, are equipped with the G1000 avionics system, really about a dozen computers. He blamed a hazardous chimney on the Gem State Processing Plant for the deadly crash.Hmmmmmm! Let me throw mine out there if I may:The simplest, a descent to MDA that was not arrested. She had a special gift for making everyone she met feel important, and her smile lit up every room. From finance to industry? Sorry, but that's insane.You can pull data all day long from flight records and try to figure out why she did what she did, but the fact remains that a published non-precision LNAV approach that misses a smokestack by 61' is unacceptable. The single pilot 135 accident rate is actually much lower than the overall GA rate, despite the challenging conditions in which "those pilots" fly day in and day out. This can occur on take-off and landing and with sufficient rapidity to obscure the runway and other landmarks during a critical time in flight. Remember to embrace and treasure every moment, just as she did. See this image that shows the stacks are directly on a standard 3 degree descent angle and there is no VSGI lighting to warn you otherwise. (Lateral integrity of 0.3 nm. Your nonsense responses like "false" with zero explanation demonstrates that you have no actual idea what TERPS, an obstacle clearance surface, and approach minimums are. If she was at MDA at that moment, then the average descent angle from VMC to tower is close to 9 degrees. A Cessna Citation V business jet that crashed in Oregon, the United States, killing the pilot, after entering a spiraling descent was because of pilot incapacitation, investigators of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) found. Give it up, she didn't bust minimums she got sucked right into that smokestack by the steam cloud she couldn't get out of in time.This is 100% on the potato plant. The last "reliable" data point on ADS-B was @ 08:32:25 at an altitude of 4150' MSL and a position of 42.5520,-113.7592 which is almost directly at the stack. Yes, sorry about the typo, runway 20, not 30. You can use the controls at the top to stop at 14:31:00 and have a look:http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KSFX&prod=CREF&bkgr=color&endDate=20220413&endTime=15&duration=1(Link will show that look-back until seven days from 4/13, so copy images before they are no longer accessible if of interest.). i suggest you read it, and digest it. Information is only available from news, social media or unofficial sources. Maybe she saw the snake river and runway but didn't see the stack? I know this is an uncorrected altitude for temp/pressure so if you add the 50 to 100' as suggested above for correction, that would put the aircraft at about 4250' MSL. Here is. The aircraft departed the Houston . Chelsea Brittney Infanger, returned to her Heavenly Father unexpectedly on April 13, 2022. Photo of N 928JP is still up on GEM AIR's web site. The condensate can blow into your path within seconds, unexpectedly. Burley Airfield should either stop 020 approaches, and/or the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" should run a pipe up from the Snake River to condense and recover its steam inside the factory, and reposition that isolated lethal stack. 2 Vista residents killed in small plane crash in Arizona. Touchdown elevation is 4,152'. At that point, runway or runway lighting were visible but not necessarily the thin grey stack in between. The airport cannot expand because it is landlocked between the Snake River and train tracks. Anyone know her duty schedule leading up to this accident? The Cessna took off from nearby Berkeley County Airport just before 11 a.m., likely on it's way to Myrtle Beach. Not surprising an elderly person might have difficulty surviving that. Date and Time: April 13, 2022, 08:32 Local, Flight Conducted Under: Part 135: Air taxi & commuter - Non-scheduled. Tubers meaning starchy root vegetables like potatoes? Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. If you're below the unusually steep 3.75 degree approach angle and it's obscured by its own steam, you're gonna hit it. The observations reported at 14:20, 14:25, 14:30 of 1SM, 1 1/2SM, 2SM visibility invalidate calculations made using 1SM visibility.Original report link:https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/104938/pdf. All seven occupants died, including diet guru Gwen Shamblin Lara and her husband, actor Joe Lara. You probably meant RWY 20. Notice how the un-guarded ladder portion below the guarded portion of the ladder above the mid-deck platform is angled as a result of the top of the caged portion of the upper ladder having been pushed to the left.Pre-accident street view shows ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/tPdJ43wFNooD2PUX8, Viewing from ground level by opening and swinging around in these views provides additional context: Street view looking at RW20 centerline from 7th street that can be spun around to face the other way:https://goo.gl/maps/Mv4KYwWvVj7FTW2s5Street view showing another side view of stacks, single stack that is the subject of ladder discussion is at the far right:https://goo.gl/maps/Jfy1KdpC4Yfyiwu77, ^^ Corrected link for pre-accident street view that shows yellow ladder system was straight:https://goo.gl/maps/CqTD5vsKPo3e2cK99. A loss of power, icing, or other emergency situation is definitely possible. Ditching in a foot or two of water thats spilling onto the sand, as he appeared to do, is so much easier than ditching outside the breakers where you would encounter wave crests and troughs. )ADS-B shows ground speed, of course. It is nonsense to suggest that because the perfect approach was 100ft to the side of the stack and above it, that it was okay! The process needs to be robust and agnostic in the person being hired. Flaps don't seem to be deployed. I am extremely sorry for her parents and other loved ones. A home without a TV is "weird" here. Accident Investigation report not yet completed, but information verified through authorities or other sources. 80 y/o Airport in wrong place, or decades old Tater Plant position? No civilians were reported injured on the beach, officials added. I totally agree with you. Sometimes, a thin coating of ice will form on the windshield, preceded in some instances by frosting. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach. Fortunately never had a flame out.Cessna C208B Caravan Captain Freight Dog. Just be honest you go below MIN at uncontrolled who would know about it? At 1407 Eastern Standard Time [] on 26 May 2019, a Cessna Aircraft Company T210M (C210), registered VH-SUX (SUX) and operated by Thomson Aviation, departed Mount Isa Airport for an aerial geophysical survey flight with a pilot and observer on board. WHY? "Gee, thanks Captain obvious. It shows the end of RWY20 as 4143' at the threshold, and 4160' on the ground beside the potato plant. A lot of conjecture in this comment, I have over 200 instrument approaches to this airport (of course all have been at minimums :-)), the silos don't come in to play, neither do the cooling towers, it is a tricky approach with a lot of thermal issues from the potato plant and river and roadways but nothing a 1500+ hour pilot can't handle. It's likely the effect of the plume is fairly localized, much like wake turbulence. Not exactly the type of volume that would create "a concentrated convective cell storm." Kathryn's Report: Cessna 560 Citation XLS+, N560AR: Fatal accident occurred September 02, 2021 near Robertson Field Airport (4B8), Plainville, Hartford County . ^ You are making too much of a simple accident. 1, 1, 1 1/2, 2 statute mile visibility was not previously discussed in comments.) Try finding familiar streets in your town/city next time you fly in on a clear night. GMAFB.And insulting me (or trying to) doesn't speak to the weakness of my position, but rather the weakness of yours. Turbine engines are especially vulnerable. Sorry about the un-closed bold run-on. It's nearly parallel to the runway. )Here are those two points, with map-pinned locations, measured distance between them and difference in raw reported altitude:Data and mapping at the edge of the Gem building:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Call this Data Point "A" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5520+-113.7592Data and mapping at 21 seconds and 2,650 feet horizontal distance before reaching the Gem building's edge and 300 feet higher:Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 216 81 93 4,450 -750Call this Data Point "B" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5578+-113.7532Determine angle using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 2,650 feetFlown descent angle between final two data points = -6.5Now, repeat the calculation from JAMID to "B":First, find JAMID coordinates from FAA database:JAMID location coordinates: 42-33-59.2100N 113-44-39.3500WJAMID location converted to decimal: 42.566447, -113.744264Map pin the location of JAMID:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.566447+-113.744264Choose nearest ADS-B data point to JAMID from FA track log:Wed 10:31:37 AM 42.5669 -113.7437 216 103 119 4,750 -663Call this Data point "C" and google map it:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5669+-113.7437(JAMID's location maps about 200 feet SWest of this data point)N928JP's location at JAMID includes an uncorrected altitude of 4,750 feet, 300 feet higher than and 4,166 feet horizontally distant from the Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 data point "B".Determine angle from JAMID to "B" using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 4,166 feetFlown descent angle between JAMID and point "B" = -4.1Everybody understands that ADS-B can be terribly inaccurate, but when you add the expected +50' pressure correction to the 4,750' reported at JAMID, the data suggests that the pilot appears to be "on" at JAMID.
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